Reacting to some recent security developments, The FBI is recommending utilizing encrypted chat programs like Apple’s Messages. Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Marty Jencius, Jim Rea, Eric Bolden, Web Bixby, and Mark Fuccio discuss how and why this change of position affects users, especially those who cross platforms, and why the FBI’s position is inconsistently consistent. Then, an iCloud discussion breaks out among the panel based on the dismissal of a lawsuit.