MacVoices #25309: Live! – Age Verification, A New Predictive Market, and Another Data Breach

Dec 9, 2025 | MacVoices Live!

Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Eric Bolden, Jim Rea, Web Bixby, David Ginsburg

The MacVoices Live! panel touches on Microsoft’s warning about a risky experimental AI agent in Windows, raising concerns about big tech pushing features before security is understood. Chuck Joiner, Marty Jencius, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Eric Bolden, Jim Rea, Web Bixby, and David Ginsburg debate age-verification proposals from Roblox and Pornhub, explore Coinbase’s new prediction market, and react to a massive WhatsApp data breach affecting billions of phone numbers. 

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Show Notes:

Chapters:

[0:00] Opening, sponsor mention, and setup for AI security discussion
[0:23] Microsoft warns experimental Windows AI agent may expose user data
[1:52] Enterprise perspective: why companies won’t enable risky AI features
[3:29] The broader question: why tech firms ship features before securing them
[3:46] Roblox proposes selfie-based age verification
[4:49] Pornhub urges device-level age verification by Apple/Google
[6:14] State-by-state regulation pressures adult platforms
[7:33] Concerns about third-party apps storing user photos and IDs
[9:32] The burden of age verification and whether platforms should hold it
[11:10] Regulatory inconsistencies, digital IDs, and privacy trade-offs
[17:36] Coinbase launches Kaushy-powered prediction market
[18:41] Risks of betting platforms built on crypto or “play money”
[20:35] Similarities to opaque financial instruments and fairness concerns
[21:54] Recommended podcast episodes on betting markets manipulation
[24:17] WhatsApp data breach exposes 3.5B phone numbers
[26:03] Why WhatsApp’s identity model makes leaks so damaging
[27:17] Meta’s years-long failure to address systemic vulnerabilities
[28:22] International reliance on WhatsApp and global impact of breach
[29:58] Closing roundtable, Thanksgiving plans, and contact info

Links:

Critics scoff after Microsoft warns AI feature can infect machines and pilfer data
https://arstechnica.com/security/2025/11/critics-scoff-after-microsoft-warns-ai-feature-can-infect-machines-and-pilfer-data/

Roblox demands an AI-verified selfie to prevent kids from chatting to adults
https://www.fastcompany.com/91445273/roblox-age-verification-ai-lawsuit

Pornhub Is Urging Tech Giants to Enact Device-Based Age Verification
https://www.wired.com/story/pornhub-is-urging-tech-giants-to-enact-device-based-age-verification/

Coinbase said to launch Kalshi-powered prediction market
https://seekingalpha.com/news/4524123-coinbase-said-to-launch-kalshi-powered-prediction-market

Against The Rules podcast
https://www.pushkin.fm/podcasts/against-the-rules

* Episode 4: “A Hard Way to Make an Easy Living” — explores how sports betting worked before legalization, the betting sharps, and differences between old-school versus online gambling.  

* Episode 7: “Little Big Short” — discusses restrictions on online sportsbooks (for example in California), featuring perspectives from pastors, Native Americans, and short-sellers.  

* Episode 8: “The Integrity Landscape” — covers how betting based on inside information hasn’t gone away, and the problems this raises for athletes — especially in college sports.  

* Episode 10: “Anybody Can Win, but Everybody’s Gonna Lose…” — looks at online gambling and the risks to individuals, especially younger people; includes reflection by the host on protecting his son from gambling’s lure. “

WhatsApp security flaw exposed 3.5B phone numbers – including yours
https://9to5mac.com/2025/11/18/whatsapp-security-flaw-exposed-3-5b-phone-numbers-including-yours/

“Wanna bet? Online prediction markets wager that you will” – CBS Sunday Morning
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGx-kqf_840

Guests:

Web Bixby has been in the insurance business for 40 years and has been an Apple user for longer than that.You can catch up with him on Facebook, Twitter, and LinkedIn, but prefers Bluesky.

Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitterby email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud.

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud.

Dr. Marty Jencius has been an Associate Professor of Counseling at Kent State University since 2000. He has over 120 publications in books, chapters, journal articles, and others, along with 200 podcasts related to counseling, counselor education, and faculty life. His technology interest led him to develop the counseling profession ‘firsts,’ including listservs, a web-based peer-reviewed journal, The Journal of Technology in Counseling, teaching and conferencing in virtual worlds as the founder of Counselor Education in Second Life, and podcast founder/producer of CounselorAudioSource.net and ThePodTalk.net. Currently, he produces a podcast about counseling and life questions, the Circular Firing Squad, and digital video interviews with legacies capturing the history of the counseling field. This is also co-host of The Vision ProFiles podcast. Generally, Marty is chasing the newest tech trends, which explains his interest in A.I. for teaching, research, and productivity. Marty is an active presenter and past president of the NorthEast Ohio Apple Corp (NEOAC).

Jim Rea built his own computer from scratch in 1975, started programming in 1977, and has been an independent Mac developer continuously since 1984. He is the founder of ProVUE Development, and the author of Panorama X, ProVUE’s ultra fast RAM based database software for the macOS platform. He’s been a speaker at MacTech, MacWorld Expo and other industry conferences. Follow Jim at provue.com and via @provuejim@techhub.social on Mastodon.

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