MacVoices #26143: Live! – Apple Earnings, Services Growth, and Why Vision Pro Isn’t Done

May 13, 2026 | MacVoices Live!

Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Eric Bolden, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Marty Jencius, and Jeff Gamet

The MacVoices Live! panel examine Apple’s quarterly earnings, the continuing importance of Services revenue, and what John Ternus’ presence on Apple’s earnings call may indicate about Apple’s future leadership transition. Chuck Joiner, David Ginsburg, Eric Bolden, Brian Flanigan-Arthurs, Marty Jencius, and Jeff Gamet discuss the Apple Vision Pro and the newest wave of “Vision Pro is doomed” commentary. They argue that Vision Pro should be viewed as an early-stage platform product that still needs more time, more content, more developer support, and a larger installed base before its long-term value can be fairly judged.

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Show Notes:

Chapters:

00:00 Apple earnings, Services growth, and Vision Pro setup
00:10 NordLayer sponsor message
00:27 CleanMyMac sponsor message
00:49 Welcome to MacVoices Live
05:13 Apple’s quarterly earnings call enters the discussion
05:31 Apple earnings reaction and why the call still matters
10:51 Services growth and Apple’s revenue future
11:58 John Ternus, Tim Cook, and possible leadership-transition signals
11:59 The conversation shifts from “Apple is doomed” to Vision Pro criticism
12:04 “Vision Pro is doomed” becomes the new narrative
16:24 CleanMyMac sponsor message
19:28 Questioning extreme criticism of Vision Pro
26:31 Vision Pro as the product Apple needs right now
26:48 The need for more Vision Pro content
26:53 Why creating Vision Pro content requires a larger installed base

Guests:

Eric Bolden is into macOS, plants, sci-fi, food, and is a rural internet supporter. You can connect with him on Twitter, by email at embolden@mac.com, on Mastodon at @eabolden@techhub.social, on his blog, Trending At Work, and as co-host on The Vision ProFiles podcast.

Brian Flanigan-Arthurs is an educator with a passion for providing results-driven, innovative learning strategies for all students, but particularly those who are at-risk. He is also a tech enthusiast who has a particular affinity for Apple since he first used the Apple IIGS as a student. You can contact Brian on twitter as @brian8944. He also recently opened a Mastodon account at @brian8944@mastodon.cloud.

Jeff Gamet is a technology blogger, podcaster, author, and public speaker. Previously, he was The Mac Observer’s Managing Editor, and the TextExpander Evangelist for Smile. He has presented at Macworld Expo, RSA Conference, several WordCamp events, along with many other conferences. You can find him on several podcasts such as The Mac Show, The Big Show, MacVoices, Mac OS Ken, This Week in iOS, and more. Jeff is easy to find on social media as @jgamet on Twitter and Instagram, jeffgamet on LinkedIn., @jgamet@mastodon.social on Mastodon, and on his YouTube Channel at YouTube.c

David Ginsburg is the host of the weekly podcast In Touch With iOS where he discusses all things iOS, iPhone, iPad, Apple TV, Apple Watch, and related technologies. He is an IT professional supporting Mac, iOS and Windows users. Visit his YouTube channel at https://youtube.com/daveg65 and find and follow him on Twitter @daveg65 and on Mastodon at @daveg65@mastodon.cloud

Marty Jencius, Ph.D.,is a counselor educator and technology pioneer who has spent 30 years bringing emerging tech into his field — from founding one of the first professional listservs (CESNET-L) to podcasting, virtual reality, and now AI and AR. He is the founder of ThePodTalk.net, where he produces Vision ProFiles, The Old Mac Gang, A.I. Productivity Workflow, The Tech Savvy Professor, 15 Minute Bytes, The Neo Notebook, and Fade to Chat: Golden Age Cinema. He is also a regular panelist on MacVoices Live!, In Touch with iOS, and The Mac Show. Find him on Bluesky and Mastodon.